Jeff Quirin: Blues interested in Miller, Vanek? Discussing the alleged interest the St. Louis Blues have in Buffalo Sabres netminder Ryan Miller and his former teammate Thomas Vanek.

I think the Blues should get Miller. Not sure you can win with Halak. He's streaky but also injury prone.

Miller would be the perfect mentor for Jake Allen too...

Math doesnt add. Would have to move a lot more that Stewart to get the cap to work. Same for Miller.

If the Islanders end up with a guy like Tarasenko for Vanek, I'm going to be really upset.

I'll take Stewart please

Math doesnt add. Would have to move a lot more that Stewart to get the cap to work. Same for Miller.
- Gerk

Remember that Buffalo would also almost definitely be eating part of his salary to make it work.

Where is Antilles? I eagerly await his guaranteed post saying Miller is garbage and St. Louis is better without him

Remember that Buffalo would also almost definitely be eating part of his salary to make it work.

Where is Antilles? I eagerly await his guaranteed post saying Miller is garbage and St. Louis is better without him
- kingcong39

I will jump in here.

Miller is not garbage, but he is not an upgrade over Halak and we are better off without him.

Jeff, your link to the current speculation is not working.

Not that I believe it, but I would like to read it anyway.

Jeff, your link to the current speculation is not working.

Not that I believe it, but I would like to read it anyway.
- carcus

Team isnt built to absorb a 7+ mil plus forward. To get that to work Stewart and/or Berglund are gone. Plus no Roy next year. Then still have to save around 2 million or so at the goalie spot next year. Plus add back the $$ Steen is going to ask for.

Team isnt built to absorb a 7+ mil plus forward. To get that to work Stewart and/or Berglund are gone. Plus no Roy next year. Then still have to save around 2 million or so at the goalie spot next year. Plus add back the $$ Steen is going to ask for.
- Gerk

No Roy is a positive, not a negative

No Roy is a positive, not a negative
- kingcong39

I don't know if Roy will be back next year, but he had not been a negative to date. He has been a pleasant surprise so far.

I will jump in here.

Miller is not garbage, but he is not an upgrade over Halak and we are better off without him.


- carcus

Agree with this...at what it will cost to get Miller, he's not that much of an upgrade over Halak. Halak has been quite solid lately.
Only way it makes sense is if Halak has a season ending injury...

With the way the Blues and Halak are playing currently, the Blues would be dealing from strength. There's no desire to make ANY move at this time. As of now Miller could be an upgrade over Halak in consistency, but not quality. Halak is playing as well as he ever has since arriving in the Lou. If they move Halak as part of the trade and then can move Elliot to get back the picks they would ship to Buffalo, and only lose Stewart, I'm ok with it. Doubt that happens though. Much easier to get the rentals at the deadline IMO.

Unless Halak is going the other way, I don't see Miller going to St. Louis at all.

Any word on Paarjavi's injury?

Remember that Buffalo would also almost definitely be eating part of his salary to make it work.

Where is Antilles? I eagerly await his guaranteed post saying Miller is garbage and St. Louis is better without him
- kingcong39

Find one post where I have said Miller is garbage, or Blues are better off without him.

Blues are better off with their current team than giving up what Sabres fans want for Miller. This thought is apparently too complex for kingcong39 to understand, but I think most non-Sabres fans would look at our roster and agree.

Well, seeing as the Sabres don't need another guy who can't score.. I personally would hate a Stewart return for Miller. We have Foligno, Ott, Tropp and hell, Girgensons for that matter. All of them could put up similar offense, =/- 10 points at seasons end. (Tropp and Foligno could match I bet, Girgensons eventually could, Ott..eh..maybe ten points less.)

The Sabres need young offense. Our defensive ranks are bursting at the seams and we're excited as hell to see what these kids turn into the next few years. Our center prospect depth is pretty great as well but we're a bit unsure if we have a true future number one center. (Grigorenko maybe?) Hodgson will be great for us but I think his point production can match a guy like Matt Duchene at best. A 70 point season eventually is certainly not out of the picture if we have a high output right winger join our franchise.

I can tell you Blues fans that if you were to trade for Miller, in one way or another, a present or future high powered winger will be coming back.

Find one post where I have said Miller is garbage, or Blues are better off without him.

Blues are better off with their current team than giving up what Sabres fans want for Miller. This thought is apparently too complex for kingcong39 to understand, but I think most non-Sabres fans would look at our roster and agree.
- Antilles

I'm going to answer this as objectively as I can. Don't trade for Miller right now. You guys have a great thing going. See where you guys are at by the trade deadline. Your goaltending has a habit of flopping in the playoffs. Miller is usually pretty great by that point. He'll get you guys far but stealing a lot of games like Quick did simply won't happen. You guys bring the offensive power and a pair of defensive lapses a game and you'll go far with Miller. What's a guy like that worth to you? Schwartz or Terasenko (sp)?

Well, seeing as the Sabres don't need another guy who can't score.. I personally would hate a Stewart return for Miller. We have Foligno, Ott, Tropp and hell, Girgensons for that matter. All of them could put up similar offense, =/- 10 points at seasons end. (Tropp and Foligno could match I bet, Girgensons eventually could, Ott..eh..maybe ten points less.)

The Sabres need young offense. Our defensive ranks are bursting at the seams and we're excited as hell to see what these kids turn into the next few years. Our center prospect depth is pretty great as well but we're a bit unsure if we have a true future number one center. (Grigorenko maybe?) Hodgson will be great for us but I think his point production can match a guy like Matt Duchene at best. A 70 point season eventually is certainly not out of the picture if we have a high output right winger join our franchise.

I can tell you Blues fans that if you were to trade for Miller, in one way or another, a present or future high powered winger will be coming back.
- TheSabresTaco

Not intersted. And exactly why the Blues won't trade for him.

I'm going to answer this as objectively as I can. Don't trade for Miller right now. You guys have a great thing going. See where you guys are at by the trade deadline. Your goaltending has a habit of flopping in the playoffs. Miller is usually pretty great by that point. He'll get you guys far but stealing a lot of games like Quick did simply won't happen. You guys bring the offensive power and a pair of defensive lapses a game and you'll go far with Miller. What's a guy like that worth to you? Schwartz or Terasenko (sp)?
- TheSabresTaco

Halak doesn't flop in the playoffs.

He has just been hurt. A healthy Halak is not a problem come playoff time, it is a strength.

Miller is definately not worth a Schwartz or Tarasenko. At least be a little realistic. A rental is not worth that much. And that is what he will be if he is not signed.

I would trade Miller for Halak and Stewart every day! Given he says he will sign a deal and not be a rental. Would be nice to have an actual certified number one goalie! Stewart and Halak are too streaky.

I would trade Miller for Halak and Stewart every day! Would be nice to have an actual certified number one goalie!
- cuethenoise

- carcus

Miller is 3x the goalie Halak will ever be. Halak is way better than average backup at best. He is playing behind of a terrible Sabres team and still posting a 91.4 save percent the guy is a beast!

Miller is 3x the goalie Halak will ever be. Halak is way better than average backup at best. He is playing behind of a terrible Sabres team and still posting a 91.4 save percent the guy is a beast!
- cuethenoise

Miller is a very good goaltender, but he is not so much better than Halak (if at all) that he is worth Halak & Stewart, expecially for half a season. (Or Schwartz or Tarasenko as previously stated)

The talk about Miller is comical.

I'm going to answer this as objectively as I can. Don't trade for Miller right now. You guys have a great thing going. See where you guys are at by the trade deadline. Your goaltending has a habit of flopping in the playoffs. Miller is usually pretty great by that point. He'll get you guys far but stealing a lot of games like Quick did simply won't happen. You guys bring the offensive power and a pair of defensive lapses a game and you'll go far with Miller. What's a guy like that worth to you? Schwartz or Terasenko (sp)?
- TheSabresTaco

Halak's career playoff numbers: 2.42 GAA; .923 SV%
Miller's career playoff numbers: 2.46 GAA; .917 SV%

Halak's career regular season numbers: 2.41 GAA; .917 SV%
Miller's career regular season numbers: 2.59 GAA; .915 SV%

Halak's best season: 1.97 GAA; .926 SV%
Miller's best season: 2.22 GAA; .929 SV%


Miller has 6 games he looked amazing in during the Olympics. Outside of those 6 games, the only leg up he has is the fact he doesn't have the history of getting injured Halak has. Sure, Halak may have benefited from some better teams, but Halak has also proved he can handle going 10 minutes without touching the puck then having to stop a breakaway. Miller hasn't, and there's no guarantee a goalie who does well seeing the puck a lot will do even better when he doesn't.

So no. Miller isn't worth a Schwartz or Tarasenko to us. He isn't worth the Blues giving up any roster player (other than Halak) or giving up a top prospect.